Originally
aired Sept. 25th, 1998
FROM
THE GROUND UP:
Farm Family Reaches out to the World
Reported
by Nancy Finken, Nebraska
Public Radio
 It has become
one of the most important documentaries PBS has produced this decade,
something that still seems a little overwhelming for the Lawrence, Nebraska
family named the Buschkoetters.
[Nancy Finken]"Did you even fathom when you agreed to
do this project what you were getting into?"
[Juanita] "Not at all. I looked at it as a very short
term thing and they were going to bop in and out and that would be it,
and it turned out to be a lot deeper than we ever thought it would be."
[Finken]"What sort of discussion was there between the
two of you when you had to decide we're going to do this?"
[Darrell] "We were real reluctant at first, but I think
after all the turmoil we went through with all the financial problems,
I think we were ready for something different, just a little attention
from somebody and to let everybody else know what the real world is
like out here."
[Juanita] "I know when I worked as field staff, I saw
so many farmers that were -- you know, they had so much pride that they
didn't want to let anybody know the problems and, of course, that kept
them from getting help so I thought if more people can see that when
you reach out for help, how much help you actually can get so that's
what I was hoping for in the film." 
[scene from film - Juanita] "So over time I just started
making decisions on my own, and at first I think he did resent it, but
I think now it's like it's a relief to him that he doesn't have to be
responsible for making all the decisions."
[Finken]"Did you have any concerns about your private
lives? Did you realize how up close and personal they were going to
be showing your lives?"
[Juanita] "David warned us in the beginning that he
wanted to be really up close, but it came up much closer than what I
ever thought it would."
[Finken]"There are scenes of the two of you lying in
bed, a time that a lot of couples talk, and watching that, you wonder
how could you forget that there was a camera there of all places?"
[Darrell]" I think -- you know, we did this for three
years, after all it's kind of part of it. You kind of learned after
that long to open up. At that point in time, there really was no privacy.
In a small town, everybody knows your business anyway or think they
do." 
[scene from film - Darrell] "Had to get up early and
slop through that stuff. Mud and mortar was two-foot deep and had to
feed the sows inside the barn because it was so wet. Talk about hell,
you know."
[Juanita] "Mm-hmm." 
[Finken]"At any point did it stop being fun for you
or stop being interesting? You mentioned, Darrell, that you were at
a point where you wanted something different, you wanted something to
change and this was a way to get some attention, but at any point did
you say well, this is too much attention, this isn't fun anymore?"
[Juanita] "Well, the times after -- especially after
we had had really stressful times, afterwards I think why did I let
it all be filmed and all, because a lot of times I would think to myself,
you know, I could really pretend to be different or I could do this
and look really good or whatever, but for some reason, it was always
just the real thing that David was always able to capture with the camera."
[scene from film - Juanita]"Sign the check and they're
going to deposit it into the supervised account but we can't have any
money out of it."
[Darrell] "Until?"
[Juanita]" I think just until they get the loss payee
out of the crop insurance."
[Finken]"You've seen the film now. Any regrets? Anything
you don't like?"
[Juanita] "Well, there's a few things I think that are
in the film that I just cringe at because it's so real and it really
brings back some of the stressful times. It was real life,
and some of the things I kind of -- I wish it could have had a few more
of the technicalities about the farming and the farm problems, but I
know David was coming more from an artistic point of view so it's more
artistic than it is technical about what we've been through."
[Finken]"Your turn, Darrell. Now that you've seen the
film, any regrets?"
[Darrell] "Maybe just a couple where going through some
of the hard times that we had, you know, I probably didn't handle things
as good as I should have, you know, with creditors or, you know, between
Juanita and I a few times, but after going through this, I maybe have
grown up a little bit. I can handle things better. I regret
part of it being on film, but at the same time, I can see how I acted
and maybe there are people that have the same problem that could --
maybe it will help somebody out. So not really. All in all, I think
it turned out pretty good."
[scene from film - Darrell] "It's a bunch of B.S."
[Juanita] "Well, where does Rich come and get off --
come in telling you everything about our operation?"
[Darrell] "So you know what we should do? Get this list
here and when the fall comes, we got extra money, his name is on the
very bottom."
[Juanita] "I think it was enlightening for me. When
I first watched the film, I feel like I wasn't as compassionate towards
what Darrell is going through as I wished I would have been or should
have been and I didn't realize that until I was watching the film. "
[Darrell] "I think it opened up both of our eyes to
see what each other go through, you know. And through the film, you
can see, too, we kind of changed roles for a while, you know. When I
was working in town and trying to farm, that's one part I regret I didn't
put much time into my girls or with Juanita. I missed out on a lot them
three, four years. There's some kind of drive that you got inside you
when you're farming, it's just hard to explain."
[Finken]"No doubt in your mind, but what about yours,
Juanita? You did not grow up on a farm, but I think in the film you
say, you knew to keep Darrell, you had to help him keep the farm."

[Juanita] "I knew that if I wanted to give up and quit
the fighting with the farming, I would have to leave him. I mean, there
was no question Darrell was never going to quit, he would never move
off the farm. Since then, I think, you know, through a lot of the counseling,
Darrell has realized that he's kind of re-prioritized things, and I
think we probably could make it doing something else, but it wouldn't
be the same love that Darrell has for the land right now. Even though
I hate having to be gone from home so much, it's been good me seeing
him be able to do what he wants to do."
[Finken]"I think another thing that might shock people
is the portion of the film where you admit that you're tired of trying
to pretend that the meals you're serving have meat in them, you're trying
to disguise just how bare your cupboards really are, you're farmers,
you're supposed to be feeding the world and you can't feed yourselves."
[Juanita] "That was probably one of the toughest things for me to go
through was not having meals for the kids. I think the mother in me,
that was the thing I could take the least. I think it got to where I
had to go against what Darrell wanted. I ended up going to food pantries
and that. I had to throw my pride away and think I have my kids to think
of." 
[Finken]"How did you pull yourselves out of feeling
helpless? What can other people do and learn from your example?"
[Juanita] "I think probably the biggest mistake we made
in our whole farming operation was not stepping back and looking back
at the whole picture sooner than we did. We would have seen what was
losing us money a lot faster."
[Darrell]" I mean, if I had to do it all over again,
I should have backed down and downsized and took a good look at it before
I let things get as bad as they did, but we learned the hard way."
[Finken]"The whole nation has a chance to see this film.
Do you think it accurately portrays what family farming is all about
today?" 
[Juanita] "I think the film shows a lot of the stresses
really up close of what farmers go through. I don't think it quite gives
the reasons why behind a lot of the technicalities of what leads to
those farm problems, but I do think that people might understand hopefully
that we are out here really working hard but enjoying it."
[Darrell] "I think it shows what is America about, you
know, the family. That's one of the biggest things we're losing. You
know, you lose the family, we lose everything else. That's why we have
the problems we do, I think. If we could get the family back together
and stay together, I think everything else could fall into place."
[Finken]"What do you think your life would be like had
you not been a subject of this film? Do you think it made you try harder?"
[Junita]"We were up against a wall so many different
times. We were told we weren't going to get the restructuring loan.
We were told that I don't know how many different times, and I was determined
we were going to do it, and that was before the film was ever even started.
I think especially with the film, I just kept telling myself, you know,
I'm not going to have an auction be in this film, we are going to make
it."
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